Computer Chess looks super promising, as far as weird lo-fi indie comedies go, but if it’s seriously a bunch of 80s nerds trying to sleep with the single lady nerd, I’m out.

editoress:

thatnightinminneapolis:

westinlee:

Remember when RLM did their awesome Phantom Menace review? Out of a number of smart observations, the smartest HAD to have been the amazing sequence where they break down why the Phantom Menace characters sorta stink while the…

Thanks! See my other comments for thoughts on her. Lots of folks point to her actions in the movie and how those actions appear - trick is, the original RLM test also disallowed actions taken in the movie.

So in other words, ‘deceptive’ is more of an action, but she’s being deceptive because she’s guarded - that seems like a trait to me. I think was the trick - what’s louder: guarded or childish? :)

I think guarded, sweet, and just are my favorites - they form a complex character in the way the other collections of words do. In my mind, anyway.

ckburch:

thatnightinminneapolis:

westinlee:

Remember when RLM did their awesome Phantom Menace review? Out of a number of smart observations, the smartest HAD to have been the amazing sequence where they break down why the Phantom Menace characters sorta stink while the original trilogy…

You know, it took me two viewings, but I finally got into Gamora. At first, I was angry by the end: this isn’t the Gamora of the comics. Gamora is a boss bitch, a badass, a walking, talking, living weapon of destruction who wouldn’t be taken down by a human and a raccoon with a pet tree. Nope. She is the epitome of La Femme Nikita In Space, and she is deadly with those knives. Of course, Gamora began as a villain in the comics, and eventually became a hero, albeit one that still slices and dices better than the Ninja Turtles. Still, her portrayal in the film was far weaker and much more soft than her predecessor in the comics; I was shocked. And even though I’ve come around and can accept how she is in the films, I was super disappointed that we didn’t have the chilling, violent badass who comes around and finds herself. I mean, in the prison scene alone — ugh. The fact that she was captured, I just — ugh. That’s just not Gamora from the comics. I get it, I get it, it’s an adaptation. But come on Marvel, this is your new space franchise. This is your Black Widow in Space! Black Widow wouldn’t have been captured like that, so why Gamora?

/rant

A lot of the comments I’ve gotten come across like I’m attacking the character - I’m not. I like her a lot. But any time a martial arts lady shows up, I worry if she’s going to basically be defined only by her ability to kick ass.

Had they made her absolutely terrifying, I think that would have been super cool, especially if it went far enough that she started to freak out the audience. I’m not sure it’s realistic to expect Marvel to put a lady character into a movie who isn’t at least part damsel or romantic interest. That’s kinda the problem. I think Black Widow dodges that by virtue of the people making the movies she is in.

And…why are there only two prominent super heroines in Marvel franchises again? And they are only in teams of at least five, and they’re both the only lady? Someone make Runaways or a Captain Marvel movie, pls.

Anyway.

Fingers crossed that, in the sequel, the filmmakers give her great things to do that don’t involve being rescued or romancing Quill.

thatnightinminneapolis:

westinlee:

Remember when RLM did their awesome Phantom Menace review? Out of a number of smart observations, the smartest HAD to have been the amazing sequence where they break down why the Phantom Menace characters sorta stink while the original trilogy…

I love it! This is what I was looking for.

thatnightinminneapolis:

westinlee:

Remember when RLM did their awesome Phantom Menace review? Out of a number of smart observations, the smartest HAD to have been the amazing sequence where they break down why the Phantom Menace characters sorta stink while the original trilogy…

Ha! Fair enough, “child” instead of “man-child.”

westinlee:

Remember when RLM did their awesome Phantom Menace review? Out of a number of smart observations, the smartest HAD to have been the amazing sequence where they break down why the Phantom Menace characters sorta stink while the original trilogy characters were so memorable.

I’m super glad that there’s people out there that dig how she’s executed on in the movie. You hit on a good point - Drax is pretty dry :) Of the gang, he was the hardest for me to sum up without saying “he’s blue-green.”

I could list a dozen words to describe Gamora’s actions in the movie, but I had a tough time thinking of a favorite Gamora scene, and summing up what was striking about her with a trait. Hence the post.

And ‘serious,’ if you know the Phantom Menace review, was the best someone could come up with for Qui-gon. Everyone who is a space warrior is serious, I think was the original intent. Glenn Close is very serious in Guardians.

Or did the person say stoic? Anyway, you get the idea.

Does Gamora pass the Red Letter Media character test?

Remember when RLM did their awesome Phantom Menace review? Out of a number of smart observations, the smartest HAD to have been the amazing sequence where they break down why the Phantom Menace characters sorta stink while the original trilogy characters were so memorable.

Here’s the test:

"Describe a character without listing their job, gender, or what they look like."

(Unspoken side note: ‘serious’ doesn’t count as a description)

Guardians of the Galaxy has marvelous performances and writing. I also think Gamora was a missed opportunity.

I can do Star Lord and the other Guardians pretty easily:

Quill: Man child, roguish, haunted

Rocket: Angry, gleeful, clever, scared

Groot: Gentle, simple, earnest, loving

Drax: Vengeful, selfish, humorless (almost)

And then you get to Gamora…can you describe her?

I don’t mind Gamora at all, or Zoe Saldana. She just happens to play a character that was written and directed in such a way that, compared to her fellow Guardians, comes off lacking. 

All I’m saying is, next time, let’s have her pass!